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10/25/2011 3:17:44 PM
Bandari
Bandari
Posts 8
Hello,

I've been playing on RoT for a couple of weeks now, and I need some help to rebuild. If I need to just start over, that's cool too. I've been playing D&D off and on for 30 some odd years, but have never picked up NWN until now.

I have been playing a Human Fighter with a couple of levels of Frenzied Berserker, Blackguard, and Weapon Master. The original build was based upon http://nwn2.wikia.com/wiki/Ithil%27Kyw_the_Underdread_-_F(14),_BG(4),_FB(5),_WM(7) however, when i tried a Drow build, I just plain got my butt handed to me, so I swapped to human.

Over the past week, I have had several people tell me that my build stinks. It does mediocre damage and has severe problems surviving unless facing very weak enemies. At level 28, I am just moving into Dakmor and Atlantis as farming areas and anything beyond them is right out. Up until about 25, I would see a spellcaster and die of fright, but I'm finally out of that phase, thank you Steadfast Determination.

My beginning stats were: Human, Fighter, Power Attack, Cleave, and Luck of the Heroes. S -16, I-14, W-8, D-14, C-14, Ch-14. There may be a spare number floating around in there that I have forgotten. The high intel and dex, considering she's a full plate wearer were intended for Combat Expertise and the Dodge line, but do open up some other classes, so I'm not totally locked in.

Now, down to the question. Is there anything that can be done for this? I've mentioned some ideas to folks, like maybe a sorc/swiftie, and all I got was a hmmph... So far, the only passable characters I've seen have been dual wielders of some sort, or archers. Everyone else has been low level or facing the same trouble i have. If that's what I need to do, fine, but I'd rather not be archer08.

Bandari
10/25/2011 6:17:48 PM
Jastin
Jastin
Posts 151
It should be possible to play any type of build you want. Some will be more successful at soloing than others. Of my higher level


What you are saying sounds right. You should get to level 30 when you are at Atlantis/Blood Sands.


There are a few players here who love to help with power building so they might have some advice for you.

If you want to stick with your current character, I would keep the WM and maybe look for something more helpful than FB. I did not look through the whole build, these are just quick observations.

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10/25/2011 8:03:29 PM
bbloom
bbloom
Posts 1548
One thing that I always throw out is that, yes, we may have a faster level progression, but you still need to build yourself up. Farming is definitely fine and there are plenty of side quests that that help in that manner, too. Save up the gold hit the epic forge in the blood sands and get yourself in good position to move on. If you have party members, that will also help in getting further than if you go it alone. Power building certainly will help you achieve solo play, but it is an investment of time in the end. Learning the terrain, tricks, etc all go hand in hand with plowing through the content.

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10/25/2011 8:35:07 PM
jonyboulder
jonyboulder
Posts 77
Bandari wrote:
however, when i tried a Drow build, I just plain got my butt handed to me, so I swapped to human.

You should've sticked with the drow. The only reason I can think of why you got pwned was because as a human you where level 3 instead of 1(but drow is far more powerful). The SR is very critical for survival. Keep that in mind for next time.

Bandari wrote:
sorc/swiftie, and all I got was a hmmph...

Well, they got nerfed...

Bandari wrote:
I would see a spellcaster and die of fright

Greater heroism takes care of fear effects.

Bandari wrote:
So far, the only passable characters I've seen have been dual wielders of some sort, or archers.

The main problem with STR based toons is that they highly rely on gear to increase AC. I'll be honest, they can solo fine but you do need some crazy gear along with every little trick in your bag to make it. That said, for a first toon on this server I'd recommend a fighter 12/CotW2/duelist 7(the rest is you choice). That split is probably the most overpowered and it should be capable of soloing a lot more areas. Then again, all you need is a DEX based toon with another stat for AC(like INT or WIS) to maximize on soloing capabilities.

You could also go for a tanky bard 1/cleric 9/stormlord 10/ dragon discible 10, I've seen a few a they seem to work(although clerics atm are nerfed...). They lack CL but they reach ridiculous AB and hps.

Straight from the wiki...
Although not truly self sufficient, it shines in a party context where buffs are available in order to compensate for weaknesses.

Its a glass canon. And the emphasis on AC on RoT makes it even worse.

Jony
10/26/2011 8:06:32 AM
The_Mighty_Bob
The_Mighty_Bob
Posts 363
Bandari wrote:

I would see a spellcaster and die of fright

Greater heroism takes care of fear effects.

Lol - think you are being a wee bit too literal there Jony.

Bandari - it would be useful to describe your preferred playstyle and character concept, then I'm sure people can link to some builds which might suit.

Check out www.nwn2db.com for build ideas. Also remember that RoT uses the KPRC pack, so your options are far greater than the builds listed on the wiki which generally only uses base expansion classes.

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10/26/2011 9:49:01 AM
Bandari
Bandari
Posts 8
The reason I got owned was because I hadn't read everything yet and was in a rush to get out there and start killing. Consequently, I ran out of the gate and got hammered by the rogues in the field instead of going to the Cloak Tower. Oops.

When playing a new game, I am better off with a automatic killing machine like a warrior than I am with a class that uses powers. I get excited and tend to forget to use things like ki critical powers and all of that jazz. I also tend to stop using powers if I don't see an immediate and noticeable benefit, so passives are my preferred. In pnp D&D, I love wizards and I do well with them. Once I'm adapted to the environment, I'll probably go that way.

I tested out a build yesterday, a warrior/cleric, but it seems that my idea of using domains to shore up my weaknesses doesn't work as I was using Kaedrin's domains, specifically illusion, for access to mirror image and displacement. I'm a little worried about creating a new build and swapping my main over and getting stuck in a class that is even more subpar, so I'm testing theories with new toons and deleting them afterwards if they stink. The bard/warlock slower than molasses build comes to mind.

PS I forgot to add that Yes, I have been using NWN2db. Pretty buggy, but extremely useful when it works.
edited by Bandari on 10/26/2011
10/27/2011 10:23:33 PM
Lord mahe of cave creek
Lord mahe of cave creek
Posts 44
Hey banjo, i think your on around the same time i am, give me a shout or message me in game, id be happy to help ya out ,my char is RAZOR

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